In this episode, Jonar speaks about Kevin Mitnick and his exploits, and the book that was written by his opponent. The book as called ‘Take Down’. Also in this episode, Jonar discusses the clever scams that scrounge for imperceptible amounts of money or data that eventually add up to become significant. Jonar Nader speaks with Walkley-Award winning journalist Ghassan Nakhoul. This broadcast is spoken in Arabic.